Session 242

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[00:48] OldPreMeds Question of the Week

“So the plan for the past two years has been medical school for a career in forensic pathology. A few days ago, I was offered a job at a medical examiner’s office as an investigator, which I gleefully accepted. 

I’m open to the possibility of falling in love with this new career, but the fear of making a mistake keeps creeping up. I know I can always go back to medical school later, but there’s not a lot of strict information about what to do as a “non-traditional” student that’s going back to school after graduating a few years prior. 

If anyone has any advice to give on what to do after being out of school for a while and considering medical school, it would be greatly appreciated.”

[01:50] Solidify In Your Mind That This is What You Want

First off, check out Episode 24 of the Specialty Stories where I had Dr. Judy Melinek, a forensic pathologist.

This is more a question of fear about not doing the right things to make sure they get into medical school. Nontraditional students have been away from starting medical school for many years. If you have no science courses and you want to start medical school next year, that’s probably not going to happen. There has to be this realistic timeframe in mind. 

Don’t look at the freshman, sophomore, junior, senior being a premed student. But where are you in your journey? Do you have the prereqs done? Do you have time to study for the MCAT? When are you planning on taking that?

More importantly, before you do anything else, solidify in your mind that this is what you really want to do. Part of figuring this out is to go get some clinical experience and some shadowing experience to see for yourself if this is something you want. Get them to make sure you’re not just hallucinating. Do you really want to go to medical school?

As a nontraditional student, why do you want to be a forensic pathologist? Where did that love come from? Make sure that you are solidifying in your mind that you want to be a physician.

[04:29] The Concept of Equifinality

If you have shadowing and clinical experience and all of that fun stuff, and that’s going along swimmingly. You recognize it’s a stepping stone to being a doctor. And you’re excited about it because this is what you want, then great!

Now, let’s look at your courses. Where are you with your prereqs? Where are you with your GPA? If you’ve already graduated, what does your GPA look like? Do you need to fix it?

We just need to add prereqs if we need to fix your GPA. How long is it going to take to fix it? What other classes can you take on top of your prereqs to make sure you’re showing a nice strong upward trend in your GPA?

On the Mappd dashboard, you’ll see a nice little graph showing everything with data on all of that. So it’s so fun. Where are you with all that? Those are the questions in my mind. Am I doing everything right to get to medical school? Because there is no right path.

One of my favorite words that I learned is equifinality. Everyone who gets into medical school ends up in the same spot right there in medical school. So no matter what path every student took, they all ended up at that same point.

[06:22] Lining Up Your Experiences to Show You Really Want This

Just imagine this from the medical school side of things. The medical admissions officers reviewing your application may find it interesting that you worked as an investigator in the medical examiner’s office. But this student really doesn’t have anything else to say that they want to be a doctor.

A lot of advisors actually tell students to drop everything that’s not medically related. Their logic behind this is it will distract you from getting into medical school and that it will look bad. But it’s just not true.

If you love being an investigator, obviously, you’re working at the ME’s office. You potentially have great exposure to shadowing the pathologist there at the ME’s office. You have an opportunity to interact with your future dream job. So I think that’s a great place to be.

[07:47] Final Thoughts

Now, you also have to work on your clinical experience. Whether that’s volunteering at a hospice or the emergency department, do something else to get close to living patients and interact with them. That’s the biggest goal. Then obviously working in the MCAT and taking that and then applying.

Then have that desire to reflect on those experiences. Tell your story in your application and go from there.

One other quick side note, when you are applying to medical school, be as generic as possible. It’s never always but be as generic as possible when you’re talking about what you want to do. The goal of the application to medical school is mostly focused on why you want to be a physician, not what kind of physician you want to be. So just remember that small little caveat.

Links:

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Nontrad Premed Forum

Premedforums.com

Specialty Stories Session 24: What is Forensic Pathology? Dr. Judy Melinek Shares Her Story